Pennsylvania Cave Conservancy Meeting Minutes for October 3, 2004

This is a summary of the minutes of the meeting.

The meeting was called to order by Secretary, Karen Bange, at 
Woodward Cave and Campground on Sunday October 3, 2004

The following officers were present:
Secretary K. Bange
Treasurer G. Bange

Absent were:
President  R. Rosevear
Vice President   A. Horn

Representation was as follows:
Bald Eagle Grotto                Dave Hollick
Baltimore Grotto                 ---
Bucks County Grotto              ---
Buffalo Valley Grotto            Matt Neyhart
Central New Jersey Grotto        ---
Commander Cody Caving Club       ---
Franklin County Grotto           ---
Greater Allentown Grotto         Dean Snyder
Huntingdon Co. Cave Hunters      ---
Nittany Grotto                   Gary Dunmire
Philadelphia Grotto              Amos Mincin
Pennsylvania Inner-Earth Grotto  ---
Pittsburgh Grotto                ---
Seven Valleys Grotto             Steve Shawver
York Grotto                      ---

There were not enough grottos represented for a quorum.
An unofficial meeting did take place.  The following was 
discussed:

Secretary Report:  The minutes from the May 2004 meeting were 
published in the Breakdown.   

Treasurer Report: George Bange distributed a copy of the PCC 
financial summary.  

Web Page: David Fricke, the web master, sent a written report.  
The website problems from last spring have been corrected.  
The site continues to receive inquiries and is increasing in 
visibility in the caving community with more listings on the 
caving related link web sites.

PCC Breakfast: PCC will ask Nate Hirneisen if he is interested 
in doing the PCC breakfast at the spring MAR.  Christopher and 
Christine Catherman are interested in coordinating a breakfast. 

Fund Raising T-Shirts: Dean Snyder has PCC bumper stickers for 
sale at $2 a piece and PCC T-Shirts for sale at $8 each.

PCC Brochure:  Brochures are available.  Anyone interested in 
brochures should contact George Bange.

Project List:

Baker Caverns: Franklin, County, PA - No one present to report

Dragon Cave: Berks County, PA - No one present to report

J-4: Centre County, PA - status quo - CLOSED

Merkle Cave: Berks County, PA - No change

Red Church Cave: Berks County, PA - Was not discussed

Cleversburg Cave: Franklin County, PA - No one present to report

Corker Hill and Frustration Pit: - Amos Mincin gave a power 
point slide presentation on this project.  Amos displayed 
four aerial maps overlaid with USGS maps to show exactly 
where the caves are located.  The owner for both caves lives 
in Minnesota.  Amos has tried to contact the owner without 
success.  Currently there is no valid access policy for the 
caves.  There is no map of Corker Hill and the map of 
Frustration Pit is dated.  A discussion pursued on the best 
way to proceed with mapping the caves. Franklin County Grotto 
has given Amos the okay to proceed with the survey.  The group 
present at the PCC meeting felt this was appropriate, too.  
Amos will proceed with the survey project and report back at 
the next PCC meeting. 

Christmas Cards:  Anyone wishing to add a landowner to the 
Christmas card list should contact Karen Bange.

Mail:  Karen sent a thank you note to the Delaware Society of 
Natural History for their $50 donation to PCC in appreciation 
of a Commander Cody Caving Club trip to several caves in Berks 
County.

Next meeting: The next meeting of the PCC will be on Saturday 
February 26, 2005 after the MAR Business Meeting.

Respectfully submitted,
Karen Bange, Recording Secretary